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inside pakistan, where they will go because pakistan is also among other nations. but reality can you give to those working in afghanistan? >> i think what we have to look at then is we have to rest comfortable with that list then, chicago, tokyo come in the international community has a huge commitment and frankly when we look at $16 billion of international commitment, it can, i don't think afghanistan is going to be standing alone. we'd like them to stand up, but again we need to be there. the >> can you review the bidding on what his profile at the insurgency today, roughly how many taliban either? how many al qaeda -- what are your best estimates and the breakdown between the hard-core click >> that it's a very difficult question. part of it deals with the nature of how things in the inning out of afghanistan for certain. i've seen numbers quite honestly as low as 20,000 insurgents and with the afghan partners around 30. the exact percentage of what's hard-core and what's not is very hard to break apart. i think there's three forces in afghanistan. what is the
inside pakistan, where they will go because pakistan is also among other nations. but reality can you give to those working in afghanistan? >> i think what we have to look at then is we have to rest comfortable with that list then, chicago, tokyo come in the international community has a huge commitment and frankly when we look at $16 billion of international commitment, it can, i don't think afghanistan is going to be standing alone. we'd like them to stand up, but again we need to be...
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>> we have used drones against al qaeda in pakistan, afghanistan, and other places in the world. i think it is incumbent on us in the senate to make sure we have a framework for when and how we're going to approve the use of drones. i do think they are an important tool in our toolkit to fight back against islamic extremists and to take action against folks who have demonstrated to be a real threat to the united states and our regional allies. >> thank you very much for joining us from capitol hill tonight. >> thank you. >> in other news now, senior officials say that leon panetta, the defense secretary, decided to lift a ban about women in combat. it will make available hundreds of thousands of jobs. women are part of the active military personnel in america. and a suicide bombing at a mosque at the capital of baghdad. explosives inside the mosque south of kirkuk. a funeral was taking place at the time of the attack. russia says it is not planning large-scale evacuation of its citizens from syria despite the crisis there. many were flown back to moscow on monday. there are tens
>> we have used drones against al qaeda in pakistan, afghanistan, and other places in the world. i think it is incumbent on us in the senate to make sure we have a framework for when and how we're going to approve the use of drones. i do think they are an important tool in our toolkit to fight back against islamic extremists and to take action against folks who have demonstrated to be a real threat to the united states and our regional allies. >> thank you very much for joining us...
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house on monday, is that the risks are changing but we still face the biggest risk from the afghanistan-pakistan area, but the proportion of the risks we face from the very has declined so we are able to use resources as we draw down in afghanistan to cope with the other risks that we face. but the overall point is absolutely that yes, we are going to have a smaller regular army, although the extra reserves will be at the overall level of our army hardly changes the size, but it would be better equipped, more capable, more mobile, more capable of dealing with the modern threats that we face. >> graham stuart. >> tournament. can i congratulate the prime minister on the speech on europe this morning, and -- mr. speaker, this premise has a history of going to bat for britain and the party opposite has a history of going in and surrendering. but can ask the prime minister is the difference between that site and decide. that side wants to deny them. >> i think my honorable friend makes a very important point. frankly, the british public have seen treaty after treaty introduced to this house passing p
house on monday, is that the risks are changing but we still face the biggest risk from the afghanistan-pakistan area, but the proportion of the risks we face from the very has declined so we are able to use resources as we draw down in afghanistan to cope with the other risks that we face. but the overall point is absolutely that yes, we are going to have a smaller regular army, although the extra reserves will be at the overall level of our army hardly changes the size, but it would be better...
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is doing them in pakistan's territory. that is often more of the issue than the drones themselves. >> brown: you don't see it as creating, you know, unintended blowback because of-- i think that's the argument is that these drone attacks create a kind of unintended consequence of more people angry at us. >> i think there always is a danger of over-using them. again, i think there have been several cases, ones i'm aware of which have disrupted people active involved in plotting. but i would also say why pack takens, for example are, unhappy with the americans. it's complicated. there are a raifnl of factors. it's not just drones. there have been a range of issues including the raid against bin laden that did so. >> announcer: is there evidence of more direct evidence that there is that kind of blow-back that you think is happening? >> well look i spend a lot of time lobbying congress and members of the hous house and se armed services committee. there is a lot of worries there, especially about the c.i.a. program and the po
is doing them in pakistan's territory. that is often more of the issue than the drones themselves. >> brown: you don't see it as creating, you know, unintended blowback because of-- i think that's the argument is that these drone attacks create a kind of unintended consequence of more people angry at us. >> i think there always is a danger of over-using them. again, i think there have been several cases, ones i'm aware of which have disrupted people active involved in plotting. but...
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so although there has been the decimation of core al qaeda in the afghanistan/pakistan region, we do have to contend with the wannabes and affiliates going forward. >> thank you, madam. >> thank you, mr. chairman and thank you, madam secretary for being here and it's great to see you today. you have been, i think, a real and dedicated public servant for this country and your travels around the world as many here have talked about it, the million miles that you have put on and all the countries you visited and i think you've been to many countries where they've never had a secretary of state and i've seen firsthand when i've been to many of these countries, the difference it makes to have you there on the ground. so i, first of all, just want to thank you for that and i know it does take a toll but you are incredibly dedicated to that. secondly, it's great to see you here in good health. >> thank you. >> smiling and engaging with all of us. and i want to ad to the list, people senators going down the line and talking about some of your accomplishments. i know previously i talked to yo
so although there has been the decimation of core al qaeda in the afghanistan/pakistan region, we do have to contend with the wannabes and affiliates going forward. >> thank you, madam. >> thank you, mr. chairman and thank you, madam secretary for being here and it's great to see you today. you have been, i think, a real and dedicated public servant for this country and your travels around the world as many here have talked about it, the million miles that you have put on and all...
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that is iraq, afghanistan, and pakistan. every other country in the world we are under the kind of contracting rules i think interfere with our capacity to get the best deal particularly when it comes to security we should in the countries where the threats unfortunately are going to always be with us. should we look to extend that to mali or somalia? >> there was an article i think in one of the newspapers today that went into detail. for more than two decades federal law required the state department to select the cheapest rather than the best contractor to provide local guard services at the embassies abroad. there is that olding you get what you pay for and this lowest-price provision started off in 1990 but it has stayed with us and i would respectfully request this committee take a hard look at it. you cannot do a total lifting of it for everyone look at the high threat posts where obviously we did it for iraq, afghanistan, and pakistan and the countries you made would fall into that category. >> among the various isla
that is iraq, afghanistan, and pakistan. every other country in the world we are under the kind of contracting rules i think interfere with our capacity to get the best deal particularly when it comes to security we should in the countries where the threats unfortunately are going to always be with us. should we look to extend that to mali or somalia? >> there was an article i think in one of the newspapers today that went into detail. for more than two decades federal law required the...
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core al-qaeda has been depleted coming out of afghanistan and pakistan. what we are dealing with now is the jihadist who have been associated with al-qaeda and gained unfortunately very serious combat experience coming back to the countries they left to wage jihad in central asia. so whether they call themselves al-qaeda, or boca horam or ansar al-sharia, they are all part of the same global jihadist movement. there may be differences between them but the goals are unfortunately similar and pose threats to us and our partners. >> chairman and mr. poe referenced tunisian suspect released on january 8. in the "new york times." do you find it distressing they released the gentleman in light of the hundred of millions of aid we gave them in the last two years? >> at this point i do in the for two reasons. first, i had a long conversation with the high-ranking tucsonian officials about this as did director mueller of the f.b.i. when he was there in person. we have been assured that there was an effort to have rule of law, judicial process. sufficient evidence
core al-qaeda has been depleted coming out of afghanistan and pakistan. what we are dealing with now is the jihadist who have been associated with al-qaeda and gained unfortunately very serious combat experience coming back to the countries they left to wage jihad in central asia. so whether they call themselves al-qaeda, or boca horam or ansar al-sharia, they are all part of the same global jihadist movement. there may be differences between them but the goals are unfortunately similar and...
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those are iraq, afghanistan, and pakistan. every other country in the world, we are under the kind of contracting rules that i think do interfere with our capacity to get the best deal, particularly when it comes to security that we should in these countries where the threats unfortunately are going to always be with us. >> should we look to extend that to mali and the drc and somalia? >> i would recommend -- there was an article in one of the newspapers that went into detail and here's how it started. for more than two decades, they required the state department to select the cheapest rather than the best contractors for the embassies abroad. you get what you pay for. the provision started in 1990 and stayed with us. i would respectfully request that this submitee take a look at it. you can't do a total lifting of it for everybody, at least look at the high threat posts where we did it for iraq, afghanistan and pack o pakistan and the countries you are naming are countries that i would fall into that category. >> thank you ve
those are iraq, afghanistan, and pakistan. every other country in the world, we are under the kind of contracting rules that i think do interfere with our capacity to get the best deal, particularly when it comes to security that we should in these countries where the threats unfortunately are going to always be with us. >> should we look to extend that to mali and the drc and somalia? >> i would recommend -- there was an article in one of the newspapers that went into detail and...
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we currently have it in afghanistan and pakistan, but it's going to expire. that's something else that i would ask the committee to look into. finally the point that the chairman made and you echoed, congressman, an authorization, i was on the armed serf service committee. it was a great organizing tool and made sure our defense needs were going to be met. i believe in the world in which are we are living, our diplomacy and development needs are important. we don't have the same focus and working with the senate foreign relations committee on authorization where you can look at everything and have subcommittees delving into the issues coming up with an authorization i think would be a great step forward. >> thank you, madam secretary. >> from florida. they retire from new york to florida. >> thank you for the positive working relationship that we had during the state department. why were you not interviewed and when the person at the top, the secretary of state was not part of the conversation when it was confirmed they were never questioned for this report a
we currently have it in afghanistan and pakistan, but it's going to expire. that's something else that i would ask the committee to look into. finally the point that the chairman made and you echoed, congressman, an authorization, i was on the armed serf service committee. it was a great organizing tool and made sure our defense needs were going to be met. i believe in the world in which are we are living, our diplomacy and development needs are important. we don't have the same focus and...
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but i think it's fair to say, senator, we operate in pakistan, iraq, afghanistan, yemen. we operate in places where we know that our facilities are being surveilled for potential attacks, where we have a steady intel stream of plotting against us. we know that. and we make the decision, which is a difficult decision, as to whether or not that mission continues. and i have to say that we really rely on our security professionals to implement the protocols and procedures. and i have to say they do a tremendous job. the vast majority of the cases i could give you a long list of attacks averted, of assassinations stopped and kinds of daily efforts that the diplomatic security officials are engaged in. i have a lot of confidence in them but we're going to do what we can to make sure that they get the support within our bureaucracy that they deserve out on the ground protecting our diplom diplomats. >> and i know i'm -- i want to obey the time because you do need to move to the house and others want to question. but maybe you could answer this for the record, does it make sense
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the state has this authority through march for afghanistan, pakistan, and iraq, but value should be a priority in all locations, and particularly in high-risk environments. we're also looking at where soul source contracting may be appropriate, to respond for certain security-related contacts. the administrative review board also supports expanding the marine security guard program, hiring and equipping more diplomatic security personnel, and of critical importance, authorizing full funding for the capital cost sharing program. the capital cost sharing program for embassy construction was created in the aftermath of the 1998 bombings of the u.s. embassies in nairobi that resulted in 224 deaths, including 11 american citizens. in its first year, it funded the construction of 13 new facilities, followed by 11 in 2006, 9 in 2005. nearly every year since, fewer facilities have been built than in the previous year, due to both funding decreases and the fact that the allocations to the account have never been indexed to inflation. costs in the construction industry worldwide have risen trem
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and iran, pakistan, afghanistan. as you close on your tenure, i was wondering if you might be willing to share some important lessons learned from the time you spent in this post. and enlighten us as to what congress can do to help respond and even get in front of these threats as we move forward. and related to that if i may, assuming that you're going to say what you've said a couple of times about increased engagement at the ground level, how do we do that in areas that are unstable? where we need to depend on local governments or local security forces that we've frankly seen don't have the ability to provide the type of security that our diplomats are going to demand. >> well, congressman, it's wonderful to see you here. and i thank you for your interest in looking sort of into the future. let me just make a couple of points. first, we have a lot of tools we don't use as well as we should. i think we've abdicated the broadcasting arena where both in tv and radio which are considered kind of old fashioned media ar
and iran, pakistan, afghanistan. as you close on your tenure, i was wondering if you might be willing to share some important lessons learned from the time you spent in this post. and enlighten us as to what congress can do to help respond and even get in front of these threats as we move forward. and related to that if i may, assuming that you're going to say what you've said a couple of times about increased engagement at the ground level, how do we do that in areas that are unstable? where...
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get involved and then when we start you know we continue our drone attacks in yemen drone attacks in pakistan so it's sort of like this and endless cycle of violence in which smaller al qaeda offshoots are now given not not not more than they're given a cause but they're also given weapons and affiliations with other groups that they may have not had before you can do what are you thinking about is the learning curve we're going to react to we can only do so good. well i tend to agree that we are in a learning mode but the ramifications it means that the likely to be a war it means that more people are likely to lose their lives we're talking about displacement of people we're talking about governments being run by quangos you're talking about a coup d'etat so what you have a failed states you have a first date we've created this out who's created those failed states ok because i think the the whole imperialist agenda of the last century is still very much in play here look at mali that's not a natural state it was invented by the french well yes it was caught off yes during the colonial era
get involved and then when we start you know we continue our drone attacks in yemen drone attacks in pakistan so it's sort of like this and endless cycle of violence in which smaller al qaeda offshoots are now given not not not more than they're given a cause but they're also given weapons and affiliations with other groups that they may have not had before you can do what are you thinking about is the learning curve we're going to react to we can only do so good. well i tend to agree that we...
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in part because over the last years we have become accustomed to operating in dangerous places, in pakistan, in iraq, excuse me, in afghanistan, and yemen and elsewhere. and we do, as by necessity, rely on security professionals to implement the protocols and procedures necessary to keep our people safe. and as i said in my opening statements, i have a lot of confidence in them because, you know, most of the time they get it right. but i was also engaged, and i think this is what deputy secretary byrnes was referring to, in the issues related to the deteriorating threat environment, particularly in libya, there were other places across the region, we were also watching, to try to see what we could do, to support the libyan government to improve the overall stability of their country, to deal with the many militias, we have many programs and actions that we were working on. i had a number of conversations with leading libyan officials. i went to libya in october of 2011, and in fact shortly before the attack on benghazi, we approved libya for substantial funding from a joint state dod accoun
in part because over the last years we have become accustomed to operating in dangerous places, in pakistan, in iraq, excuse me, in afghanistan, and yemen and elsewhere. and we do, as by necessity, rely on security professionals to implement the protocols and procedures necessary to keep our people safe. and as i said in my opening statements, i have a lot of confidence in them because, you know, most of the time they get it right. but i was also engaged, and i think this is what deputy...
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we have driven a lot of the aq operatives out of the fatah, out of afghanistan, pakistan. killed a lot of them including of course bin lauden but we have to recognize this is a global movement. we can kill leaders but until we help establish strong democratic institutions, until we do a better job communicating our values and building relationships, we'll be faced with this level of instability. and i do have a lot of thoughts what more we can and should do given this new reality we face. >> thank you again. >> senator boxer. >> thank you very much. madam secretary, you have represented our country with tremendous strength and poise. you have won us friend but you have always spoken outs for fully where required. i want to thank you because this is maybe the last time you will come before us as secretary here. i want to thank you for your advocacy in behalf of women around the globe. you will be sorely missed but i hope for one not for too long. as you have said, you are heartbroken by those losses in benghazi. we saw it in your face, many times, today as well. you were he
we have driven a lot of the aq operatives out of the fatah, out of afghanistan, pakistan. killed a lot of them including of course bin lauden but we have to recognize this is a global movement. we can kill leaders but until we help establish strong democratic institutions, until we do a better job communicating our values and building relationships, we'll be faced with this level of instability. and i do have a lot of thoughts what more we can and should do given this new reality we face....
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the state has this authority through afghanistan, pakistan, and iraq. we're also looking at where contracting may be appropriate for certain securitity related contacts. hiring equipment and diplomatic security personnel, and authorizing full funding for the embassy construction capital cost sharing program. it was created in the after math of the 1998 bombings that resulted in 224 deaths including 11 american citizens. the the first year, it funded the construction of 13 facilities, and nine in 2005. nearly every year since, fewer facilities have been built than in the previous year due to both funding decreases and the fact that the allocations have never been indexed. costs have riseen tremendously. the department estimate it's will be able to construct just three new facilities, spite the fact that there are a couple dozen posts that are high risk posts that need replacing right now. the lest sons are not about only adequately resourcing our relations. within the department itself, among all of the agencies engaged in international work, and between
the state has this authority through afghanistan, pakistan, and iraq. we're also looking at where contracting may be appropriate for certain securitity related contacts. hiring equipment and diplomatic security personnel, and authorizing full funding for the embassy construction capital cost sharing program. it was created in the after math of the 1998 bombings that resulted in 224 deaths including 11 american citizens. the the first year, it funded the construction of 13 facilities, and nine...
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the work that has been done in afghanistan and the borders area between afghanistan, pakistan, certainly has taken out a whole caught die ofdcadre of leadership. what we're seeing people who have migrated back to other parts of the world where they came from primarily who are in effect affiliates. part of the jihadist syndicate. some of them like al qaeda in the islamic maghreb use that name, others use different names but the fact is they are terrorists. they are extremes. they have designs on overthrowing existing government, even these new islamist governments of controlling territories of the so although there has been the decimation of core al qaeda in the afghanistan, pakistan region, we do have to contend with the wannabes and the affiliates going forward. >> thank you, madam. >> senator udall. >> thank you, mr. chairman and thank you, madam secretary, for being here and it's great, great to see you today. you have been, i think, a real dedicated public servant for this country and your travels around the world, as many have talked about it. the millions miles you've put on and al
the work that has been done in afghanistan and the borders area between afghanistan, pakistan, certainly has taken out a whole caught die ofdcadre of leadership. what we're seeing people who have migrated back to other parts of the world where they came from primarily who are in effect affiliates. part of the jihadist syndicate. some of them like al qaeda in the islamic maghreb use that name, others use different names but the fact is they are terrorists. they are extremes. they have designs on...
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terribly difficult challenge in dealing with and reducing the flow of calcium i am moan yum nitrate from pakistan into afghanistan which finds its way into the roadside bombs that kill our troops, known more popularly as i.e.d.s. and the work mentioned by senator boxer and others on behalf of women throughout the world, and also women and girls particularly in afghanistan. maybe thirdly even though we're still the throws of responding to the challenge in syria, the great work you've done on humanitarian assistance and other elements of that strategy that we've worked together on. also, i want to commend the -- not just the approach but the words you spoke today about not retrenching that renot retreating when it comes to getting the balance right between engagement and also security, both high priorities. i was struck by -- and i'm glad you were specific on page 3 of your testimony -- about the specifics on implementation, 29 recommendations by the board, which now has found its way into -- or i should say which now is a set of 64 specific action items. you said in your testimony, quote, fully 85
terribly difficult challenge in dealing with and reducing the flow of calcium i am moan yum nitrate from pakistan into afghanistan which finds its way into the roadside bombs that kill our troops, known more popularly as i.e.d.s. and the work mentioned by senator boxer and others on behalf of women throughout the world, and also women and girls particularly in afghanistan. maybe thirdly even though we're still the throws of responding to the challenge in syria, the great work you've done on...
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in pakistan, in iraq, excuse me, in afghanistan, and yemen and elsewhere. and we do, as by necessity, rely on security professionals to implement the protocols and procedures necessary to keep our people safe and as i said in my opening statements, i have a lot of confidence in them because, you know, most of the time they get it right. but i was also engaged, and i think this is what deputy secretary burns was referring to, in the issues related to the deteriorating threat environment, particularly in libya. there were other places across the region we were also watching to try to see what we could do to support the libyan government to improve the overall stability of their country, to deal with the many militias. we have many programs and actions that we were working on. i had a number of conversations with leading libyan officials, i went to libya in october, 2011. in fact, shortly before the attack on benghazi, we approved libya for substantial funding from a joint state dod account for border security, ct capabilities and wmd efforts. so i want to jus
in pakistan, in iraq, excuse me, in afghanistan, and yemen and elsewhere. and we do, as by necessity, rely on security professionals to implement the protocols and procedures necessary to keep our people safe and as i said in my opening statements, i have a lot of confidence in them because, you know, most of the time they get it right. but i was also engaged, and i think this is what deputy secretary burns was referring to, in the issues related to the deteriorating threat environment,...
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those are a rock -- iraq, afghanistan and pakistan. so every other country in the world we are under the kind of contracting rules that i think do interfere with our capacity to get the best deal, particularly when it comes to security, that we should in these countries where the threats unfortunately are going to always be with us. >> should we look to extend that to mali? to the d.r.c.? to somalia? >> well, i would certainly recommend -- there was an article in the -- i think in one of the newspapers today that went into some detail, basically here's how it started. for more than two decades federal laws required the state department to select the cheapest rather than the best contractor to provide local guard services at its embassies abroad. and you know there's that old saying you get what you pay for and this lowest price provision started off in 1990 but it has just stayed with us and i would respectfully request that this committee take a hard look at it. if you can't do a total lifting of it for everybody, at least look at the
those are a rock -- iraq, afghanistan and pakistan. so every other country in the world we are under the kind of contracting rules that i think do interfere with our capacity to get the best deal, particularly when it comes to security, that we should in these countries where the threats unfortunately are going to always be with us. >> should we look to extend that to mali? to the d.r.c.? to somalia? >> well, i would certainly recommend -- there was an article in the -- i think in...
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i mean, we have taken the fight to al qaeda, both in its core location, afghanistan and pakistan, as well as to those affiliates that represent a threat to the united states and to americans around the world. our vigilance does not end there. and we have been very clear about the threat posed by aqip, aqap and aqim. what is also true is that to this point, aqim has not represented a direct threat to the homeland. but you can tell by our support of the mission that the french have undertaken and by our overall efforts to go after and contain and defeat extremists who would do harm to our interests that we are very serious about this. >> al qaeda central command has been decimated even as al qaeda-affiliated groups may be growing? >> i think you can square it by stating it clearly which is that secretary of state clinton did and which president clinton has and i have and others. i mean, sorry, president obama, and secretary of state clinton, president obama, secretary carney. [laughter] thank you. >> i thought you weren't going to speculate that. >> was that a lip sync? >> you stole my
i mean, we have taken the fight to al qaeda, both in its core location, afghanistan and pakistan, as well as to those affiliates that represent a threat to the united states and to americans around the world. our vigilance does not end there. and we have been very clear about the threat posed by aqip, aqap and aqim. what is also true is that to this point, aqim has not represented a direct threat to the homeland. but you can tell by our support of the mission that the french have undertaken and...